The Budget Repair Bill and Concealed Carry

The Wisconsin Supreme Court overturned Judge Sumi’s ruling on the collective bargaining law.

Dane County Liberal Activist Judge Maryann Sumi Usurped The Power Of The Legislature Say Justices

The Wisconsin State Senate passed SB-93 – Concealed Carry in a 25-8 vote.

While it is not Constitutional Carry like we want, it is a step in the right direction.  Thank your Senator if he/she voted in favor of this bill.  Tell them we will continue to push for Constitutional Carry, but appreciate the big step forward that they took.

Our focus now moves to the Assembly.  Contact your Assembly representatives and tell them to pass SB-93 as is with no further restrictions on your natural right to keep and bear arms.  This bill is already a significant compromise from Constitutional Carry.

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SB-93 Concealed Carry Amendments – More Restrictions – We said It would Happen

Tomorrow,  the  Wisconsin State Senate will be debating SB-93 and the 16 Amendments to this bill.  The proposed Amendments are MORE restrictions to a Constitutional Right.  We support Constitutional Carry because the right to keep and bear arms is a natural right.  We will continue to support and fight for Constitutional Carry.

We also knew this permit process is a slippery slope to more regulation.  RINO Senator Van Wanggaard is one of those proposing more restrictions on our right to keep and bear arms.  Remember this when he is up for re-election.  This is further proof that just because the person is  “Republican” does not mean they believe in fidelity to the Constitution.

Contact the Republican Senators and tell them not to further infringe on your natural rights.

Here is the NRA criticisms of these amendments and responding to the misinformation:

PPA NRA Position on Hostile Amendments

PPA Opponent Misinformation

NRA Calls Out Milwaukee “Conservative” Radio Talk Show Hosts

Go to the 8:10 mark…Mr. La Sorte is referring to “conservative” talk radio hosts Charlie Sykes and Jeff Wagner when they said this:

Are the WI Republicans caving on Constitutional Carry and sending SB93 back to the Joint Finance Committee to kill the bill?

Walker says concealed carry bill should require training, permits

Constitutional Carry – Priceless

Dr. Tim Nerenz – Moment Of Clarity – Constitutional Carry

This is a great column by Libertarian Dr. Tim Nerenz from his website MOMENT OF CLARITY talking about Constitutional Carry:

May 11, 2011

Constitutional Carry

We had such high hopes in Wisconsin for this new Governor and this legislature. The coalition of conservatives, libertarians, and constitutionalists that turned out the liberals had a few priorities that we did not think would be difficult to achieve in short order, chief among them being removal of the unconstitutional restrictions on carrying firearms.

We are not asking for much; only that law abiding citizens be afforded the same opportunities for self-defense that criminals have enjoyed in this state for decades.

Criminals do not have to secure permits, endure training, buy licenses, or track ammo. Criminals are not subject to restrictions on the caliber, magazine size, or firing mechanism of their weapons. When criminals find themselves in need of a firearm for self-defense, they do not have to dial 911 and then wait for a police officer to show up with one. Criminals have no waiting period; no forms to fill out.

We are only asking that non-criminals be afforded equal rights. The fact that oh-by-the-way concealed carry reduces violent crime is a bonus, but we should not have to prove to anyone that there is a benefit to them in order for our rights to be secured.

The bill to remove all restrictions on owning and carrying firearms in the state of Wisconsin should have been written on one page, debated for a minute, and passed on the first day of the legislative session. You either believe in freedom or you don’t; you either believe in the Constitution or you don’t; you either believe in unalienable rights or you don’t. Liberty does not accept amendments or earmarks.

Wisconsin’s Constitutional Carry Bill, LRB 11-2007-1 has finally been introduced and is co-sponsored by Dr. Pam Galloway, a citizen legislator with whom I was privileged to share a panel during the health care debates of 2009-10. It strikes down all of the provisions of Wisconsin law that infringe upon the right to keep and bear arms. Bravo, Senator Galloway and all who support her.

But her more experienced colleagues have subsequently introduced competing bills which introduce new requirements for training, registration, licensing and other infringements. The author of one of them, Rep. Donald Pridemore, argues that his added red tape is “a reasonable compromise between an individual’s second amendment rights and a modern day application of these rights”.

Dear Rep. Pridemore: no compromise of a right is ever “reasonable”. But thank you for helping me point out the difference between a Republican and a Libertarian. We Libertarians are quite unreasonable when it comes to compromising on unalienable rights. It is a heck of a word to say, so we tend to mean it.

The Constitution of the United States does not grant rights to citizens; it limits the powers of government to infringe on the rights which have already endowed upon us by our Creator. One of those is the right to keep and bear arms, to defend our persons and property in any manner we see fit.

In fact, guns are the only product or service mentioned anywhere in the Constitution. While we also clearly have a right to keep and bear food, healthcare, clothing, shelter, and many other necessary things, the framers did not deem any of them important enough to warn the government against any form of infringement – only guns. Think about that.

Who do you imagine they had in mind that needed to be expressly warned by the 2nd amendment? I’m guessing the same folks who are being warned “hands off” in the other nine. Was the 4th amendment aimed at your neighbor, requiring a warrant before he comes in to borrow a cup of sugar? Was the 5th amendment needed to limit the power of your priest at confession? Was the 1st amendment meant to keep the auctioneer from ignoring your bid?

No. It is government that the founders feared enough to bind by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights; and their worst fears of government encroachment on our liberties have come true in our lifetimes. The purpose of the second amendment is to protect us from our government; we will not negotiate the dinner menu with cannibals.

Government officials who swear to uphold and defend the Constitution, and who are expressly prohibited from any form of infringement on the citizens’ rights to keep and bear arms, have amassed so many unconstitutional prohibitions in violation of the oath that it takes Dr. Galloway’s bill 19 pages to list all of them which will be struck moot by adhering to the Constitution in Wisconsin. It is time for us to correct this wrong, and to do so in one fell swoop.

The thing about gun rights is not the guns part, it’s the rights part. We do not require citizens to buy a license and pay for training to vote, speak, worship, assemble, secure their homes, serve on a jury, or petition for redress. Constitutional carry is liberty’s demand, not mine; call your representatives and remind them what they were sent to do last November.

“Moment Of Clarity” is a weekly commentary by Libertarian writer and speaker Tim Nerenz, Ph.D. Visit Tim’s website http://www.timnerenz.com to find your moment and watch for the upcoming release of his new book, “Capitalista!”

Patriots Meeting This Friday May 13th and The Republican Game

CONFIRMATION:  The meeting this Friday May 13th will be held at the Dwight Foster Library in Fort Atkinson located at 209 Merchants Avenue at 6pm.  It will be an interesting meeting!

CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY UPDATE – THE REPUBLICAN GAME…I have just been informed that Constitutional Carry is a DEAD ISSUE.  It will NEVER be introduced in the Assembly and there will be NO VOTE in the Senate no matter what we do.  Our two other leaders from RRP were in Madison today at the Capitol and got the word directly.  THIS IS A DISGRACE! 

The Republican Leadership has been stringing us along on this bill and had no intention of ever allowing it to happen.  After all the work the TEA Party / Patriot / 2nd Amendment groups have done, this is how we are treated?  We are not even being given the opportunity for the bill to be debated on the floor in the Senate or Assembly!  It is time to call your representative and the leadership in the Assembly and Senate and express how DISGUSTED you are.

VOTER ID UPDATE REAL ID is still in the bill that they will be voting on tomorrow.

CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY PUBLIC HEARINGS – SUPPORT CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY

The public hearings for the Concealed Carry Bills are this Thursday May 12th.  The details are listed below. The Rock River Patriots support CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY only for many reasons.  See our Constitutional Carry post for many of the reasons contained our “Talking Points Memo”.

Another reason to support  CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY is because, as Constitutional Conservatives,  we want to keep government limited in size and scope.  This “permit carry” bill opens the door for more gov’t in our lives.  I thought that is what the Republicans in Wisconsin campaigned on…Limited Government!

While we highly recommend that all gun owners get training,  the training requirement is something that should be VOLUNTARY.  Since 2009 people have been carrying openly in WI without any incident that I am aware of that would be classified as a “training issue”.  There is no no training requirement to open carry.  There is also no training requirement in Vermont, Wyoming, Alaska, or Arizona where they have Constitutional Carry.  If any major incidents have happened there, they have not been widely publicized.

THERE ARE GAMES BEING PLAYED IN MADISON REGARDING THE CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY BILL
.  It seems the leadership doesn’t want this bill to even get a chance to be debated on the floor and voted on.  There is no Constitutional Carry bill that has been submitted in the Assembly. This may be because the Republican Leadership is bowing to the NRA instead of listening to all of the TEA Party/Patriot Groups/2nd Amendment Groups in WI.  Here is an email from one WI Patriot:

The NRA and certain elected officials are selling out Wisconsin’s gun owners and all 2ndAmendment advocates.  That is the only way to describe it when a popular movement is being thwarted and elected official present two nearly identical bills to confuse and divide the population.

In two Journal Sentinel polls, over 16,000 people responded to questions about Concealed Carry.  In the first poll, 81% of 8,400 respondents supported “a Concealed Carry law.”  In the second poll, 64% of 8,200 respondents supported “Constitutional Carry.”  This clearly shows a public mandate for Constitutional Carry.

However, the NRA is promoting the Permitted Carry bill as opposed to the Constitutional Carry bill.  This could be because Constitutional Carry means they won’t be getting any new members to follow their news for updates when the government mandates training they currently claim not to support.  The NRA and others have a vested interest in Permitted Carry and do not want you to exercise the full extent of your Constitutional Rights without paying additional taxes and fees into a massive governmental bureaucracy. 

In a recent NRA-ILA email, they link to their own Summary of the bills and their own “Comprehensive Q&A” file.  They are not telling us everything.  The NRA says Constitutional Carry does nothing to change those onerous Gun Free School Zone (GFSZ) exclusions.  That is incorrect as it specifically eliminates the word “zone” and replaces it with “property.”  This clearly means the exclusion zone is gone and you can only be limited on school property (but this would just apply in Wisconsin – no reciprocity on this as there are Federal GFSZ law that are active in other states).  With either bill, the Federal 1000 foot GFSZ is going to be a problem.

If you want unabridged freedom to exercise your 2nd Amendment Rights, then you need to call your legislator to show support for Constitutional Carry. 

Right now, if you are age 18, you can earn a license to drive a vehicle, buy a vehicle and do both without any special training.

Right now, if you are age 21 and can pass a background check, you can own a gun with no special training.

Right now, if you can own a gun, you can Open Carry without a permit or any special training. 

Right now, criminals and thugs illegally carry concealed weapons without a permit or any special training.

Right now, is the time to show Wisconsin can be Progressive and implement Constitutional Carry.

Your Constitutional Rights should not change when you put on a coat.  It is imperative that we do not accept a watered-down and politically expedient bill that limits our rights and increases the size and scope of big government. 

If you cannot attend one of these public hearings; you need to contact your legislators and request they support the Constitutional Carry bill.  The legislature is pitting us against each other to see which bill gets more support.  Make sure your voice is heard by calling or emailing your legislator and supporting Constitutional Carry.  

Here are the Public Hearings, attend one and promote Constitutional Carry!

 

Assembly Committee on Criminal Justice and Corrections

Thursday, May 12 at 10:30 a.m.

State Capitol Building

Room 417 North

Madison, WI

(only the “Permit Carry” bill will be heard)

Senate Committee on Judiciary

Thursday, May 12 at 12:30 p.m.

UW Marathon County

Center for Civic Engagement

625 Stewart Street Wausau, WI

(both the “Constitutional Carry” and “Permit Carry” bills will be heard)