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Posts can also be a recent Letter to the Editor of the local paper, or a  letter to an elected official at any level of government.  This is a great way to draw attention to something that is not being covered by the media, and/or encourage others to get involved.

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103 Responses

  1. Let’s start out by saying “Pro-life is not too popular in this day in age” now this statement seems backwards most people are pro-life if you dig deep down into it row v. Wade needs to be overturned. Now the fact that trump has said that he supports planned parenthood then backtracked leads me to question if trump is a RINO or not or if he is even republican..I would say the pro-life stance is the pinacle of the conservative movement and is what differs us from the democrats. I really don’t think you can be republican and be pro choice… so for trump he will not get my vote ever.

  2. The Popularity Contest

    Let the popularity contest begin, or should we say, spectacle. It’s become one, especially with the introduction of the “trump-et” sideshow. An historic conservative lineup has largely been overlooked or systematically ostracized in the interest of pure entertainment.

    On the left side of the river, where the end justifies the means, the “sands” (as in Bernie) of socialism are now advancing at an accelerated rate seeking to fill the waters of freedom and truth. The democrat debate proved this unapologetically. I see little difference between the candidates. It’s evident that all of them will obediently carry on the destructive Obama doctrine. But the men needn’t be concerned. Those castrated bookends bracing Mrs. Clinton basically handed her the nomination. Undoubtedly she was flush with euphoria. Or is there one just biden’ (as in Joe) his time waiting for justice to be served. Terrifying is the fact that there is a growing population who are eager to embrace the collective. How many generations are we away from witnessing our constitutional republic turn to dust?

    And on the other side of the river, there’s little desire to drudge those polluted waters. We nominated, into a majority, what we’d hope would become a policy killing machine. Sadly however the republicans have turned out to be all but catatonic. Isn’t that the reason for the popularity of Trump and Carson? Their brazenness is certainly refreshing. Of course they haven’t done anything yet. We have the humble Carson, with his solid world view. But it is Trump who is stealing the show. I speak to you conservatives. Do you really think that Trump suddenly had this grand epiphany overnight? Liberals are not the only ones that are uninformed. I have my doubts with Trump, but any one of the conservative candidates possesses the ability to slow America’s hemorrhaging. That goes for Walker, too, although I am happy to see him back running our state. I trust that real change can only occur at the local level. But I think true reversal—reform—will only come through the election of a constitutionalist, a Paul, or a Cruz. Or is the election of a woman inevitable? I had conceded that it must be Hillary. Very well, let’s get it over with and move on, and hope we survive. But perhaps the first female president doesn’t have to be a democrat.

    I can hear it now; he just hates any democrat no matter what. No, just sickened by a party that serves Satan. The Zell Millers are long gone. By far Grover Cleveland was the best president the democrats ever produced. Who’s he? Look him up.

    So, do we allow the democrats, the republican establishment and Fox News to select the candidates yet again? Regrettably, for the preservation of our nation, people like Paul and Cruz will never be elected. It seems emotions will continue to win out while common sense continues to decline. I see little hope of returning to anything remotely like our founding principles. A biblical world view, the one Ben Carsen embraces, is our only real hope. Someone needs to step up and reeducate the public on the conservative manifesto. And republicans, you can look up Calvin Coolidge.

    Scott

    • Rather than look up Calvin Coolidge, or anyone else, why not just look to your own life span? If you are old enough to vote, then both parties have been in control of the congress, the white house and state legislatures at some point in your lifetime. And yet, we are not happy with where the country is. Simple logic dictates that if any candidate from either party was going to change things for the better, they would have done so before this. But rather than think for ourselves and come to the only reasonable conclusion, people continue to allow themselves to be led along by the media, believing that this one or that one is going to be any different than the last one. Well, they’re not. Even if any of them wanted to be, they couldn’t.. they’d simply be assassinated. You can call yourself a republican or democrat, and you can vote for any of their candidates, but you CANNOT do that and call yourself a partriot.. not anymore.. the truth is just too obvious.

  3. “Baby Body Parts”
    Today is the day that we all must stand up and move forward with the Personhood Amendment in Wisconsin and throughout this country. We must also defund Planned Parenthood without delay. There is no moral or ethical argument left to oppose the granting of Personhood Rights to the unborn from conception. It has now been established: abortions are not simply getting rid of “inconvenient” tissue. Hearts and livers and brains from these tiny human beings are in demand and are being harvested. That should shock the conscience of every American.
    There is no excuse left for our federal tax dollars to be used to fund the torture, death and organ procurement of these innocents. The executives at Planned Parenthood themselves have irrefutably proven that abortion is not about choice; it is rather, about the Almighty Dollar. In July the video of one Planned Parenthood executive’s cold, casual and callous description of the organ procurement process of baby body parts stunningly revealed to a nation immersed in denial that we have allowed evil to reign in our country. The horrific suffering that has been perpetrated upon the most vulnerable in our society has been exposed. It is not about personal choice and the autonomy of women; but rather, it is nothing more than old fashioned greed. And, that greed has motivated the actions of those whose consciences are seared by the desire for wealth and power.
    In all medical procedures, except for abortion, in order for decision-making to be valid under the law, there must be sufficient information given to patients so that the person or their family can fully comprehend the extent of the procedures and risks. Then if they proceed with the medical procedure they have legally assumed the risk. But if there is not “informed consent,” because information has been intentionally withheld, then physicians can be held liable for the consequences of a medical procedure where the risks were not fully disclosed. It is now clear that women have been intentionally lied to and deceived about the “clump of cells” they were ridding their bodies of. The videos of Planned Parenthood openly discussing the procurement terms reveals that the hearts and livers of these babies are fully formed. If women knew the truth before the abortion, many would refuse the procedure. That is also why Planned Parenthood lies and fights against ultrasounds or sonograms of the babies in their mothers’ wombs.
    The rights of the unborn to not experience excruciating pain as they are torn limb from limb and to not be crushed in “just the right place” so as to preserve their most precious and valuable commodities-hearts and livers- must now trump any argument that women have a right to choose. Planned Parenthoods’ abortionists slaughtering of the unborn for profit must be stopped.
    If a seismic shift in the abortion debate does not occur around America’s kitchen tables across this country this summer, then we have become a nation of cold-blooded monsters. When did we hear of Hitler’s Joseph Mengele selling the organs of the unborn by harvesting them through the most painful and barbaric methods imaginable? Who would not turn away in sheer horror if ISIS exacted similar deaths upon its Christian captives?
    Soon women will be paid to become pregnant for the express purpose of having an abortion in order to feed the growing demand for harvested organs of her unborn babies. The transplantation breakthroughs of preborn baby body parts are on their way to creating a never-ending demand for these tender, yet to be born, beating-hearts. This will in turn lead to a never ending demand which will fuel the abortion rates of late term babies. The demand for these organs world-wide will drive this burgeoning industry of baby body part production and harvesting.
    Lest you have doubts regarding the likelihood of this proposition, do not forget that in 2009-2010, we in the pro-life community in Wisconsin stopped our own UW-Madison Medical Department from creating a joint venture that was exposed when it was revealed that it was going to take over Planned Parenthood’s practice in Madison. Their plan even included forcing medical staff to participate in the procedures. Once this plan was exposed we learned that the planners had brazenly announced that they were going to do about 100 late second trimester abortions a year. Ask yourself, how would they have known the number of these late second trimester abortions that would be needed? How likely is it that the population of Wisconsin itself could support that many “naturally occurring circumstances” that would lead to late second trimester abortions?
    If you needed a heart transplant in order live, would you accept an aborted baby’s heart? If you answered yes, I am afraid you have bought the masterful lie that your life or your loved ones life, is more important that another human being’s suffering and death. Consider carefully that eventually the demand for baby hearts and livers and brains will drive the recruitment of woman to become pregnant in order to feed the demand for late term abortions for the intentional procurement of baby body parts.
    Wisconsinites stood up and did the right thing six years ago. People of faith, people of conscience, stand up now for the sake of these little tortured souls. Let us give complete Personhood Rights to the unborn and let us defund Planned Parenthood. Choice be damned-this is only about the money! Let us remove that motivator once and for all.
    Karen L. Mueller is a Wisconsin Attorney living in Chippewa Falls. Part of her practice has included religious freedom and sanctity of life issues. Ms. Mueller ran unsuccessfully for the 3rd U.S. Congressional seat in Wisconsin in 2014. Currently, as President of the Chippewa County Republican Women’s Club she is working with other republican women in Clark, Eau Claire, Lacrosse, Marathon, Pepin, Pierce, Trempealeau and Wood counties to organize the upcoming pro-life conference “Every Life Matters” on October 1, 2015 at the Florian Gardens in Eau Claire. Go to: http://www.everylifematters.life for more information and tickets.

  4. Just wish to thank two of the RRP,s leaders for speaking at our Jefferson County Republican Party,s, Ralph Park event “Its all about freedom” Perhaps the speeches could be posted to the website.— also it is hoped they would consider further opportunities to further freedoms cause.
    Leon Hebert, JCRP liaison committee chmn

  5. I viewed Michael Chapman’s speech (Sustainable Tyranny) and was wondering if it would be possible to get several copies to pass out at our “We the People” meeting in May in Sheboygan.

  6. Our children are being Dumbed Down by our Federal Department of Education, via the Common Core Standards that they are forcing upon the States in order to continue to receive Federal Funding for Education, so far 30+ states have accepted and are implementing the Common Core Standards and consequently providing a substandard Education to our youth, it is time to engage and insist that the Schools Improve Education with traditional Education Values, use the following guide and call your Legislators and Governors and insist that they return Educational Standard to State Control.
    From: Eagle Forum
    Subject: Calls Needed to Oppose “Common Core”

    Reply-To: Eagle Forum

    Calls Needed to Oppose “Common Core”
    March 26, 2013

    Dear Wisconsin Friend,

    Our representatives in Madison need to hear your concerns about nationalizing education standards in the United States by states adopting the “Common Core” standards. We do not want our children to be “common.”

    Please contact members of the Education Committee on the House and the Senate side. You can use the Call Guide below to help you. Contact information for the Education Committee is below the Guide.

    Common Core Telephone Call Guide

    When calling your legislator, do not be concerned about whether or not you get everything said “just right.” It will be more effective if it does not sound “canned.” The biggest factor will be the volume of calls which translates into votes for or against the legislator. Call early and call often. Always call your own legislator and any others you have time for.

    Use the following as a guide and keep your calls short and to the point. You will most likely talk to a legislative aide. Offer to provide detailed documentation for the legislator if they are interested and someone to meet with them at their convenience. No, not you. That would be too scary. Someone. Have some fun and know that this is important.

    When someone answers:

    “Hello, this is _____________, and I’m concerned about our state’s education programs. I am a voter in the __________District and I object to the Common Core State Standards being dictated by the Federal Government Department of Education.”

    “What is ______________’s position on this?” (If against Common Core, (not likely), encourage and support. Most likely, they will be unaware or in favor out of ignorance. If so, then…)

    “I will explain VERY briefly why I am against implementing Common Core Standards.

    It is big government, top down, control of schooling, (training not educating), that sacrifices individualism for the sake of the collective
    Local school boards have zero control of content, even though it is billed as “voluntary”
    It is a usurpation of rights reserved for the states
    Costs are estimated to be $16 billion with 90% paid by the states and we have NO say in what’s being taught
    The data tracking requirement from K through Career is an intrusive violation of the privacy rights of our children and their parents
    It is a deliberate dumbing down of our children as shown by performance scores that have steadily deteriorated since the inception of the Department of Education
    Standards are so low that 2 Ph.D.’s serving on the committee refused to sign off

    Reminders:
    Always be cordial and pleasant, “smile while you dial.”
    Always thank them for listening and assure them that you or someone else will follow up.
    This WILL be an issue at many District caucuses and WILL be a resolution at State convention.

    You can find more details and downloadable documents at TruthinAmericanEducation.com or StopCommonCore.com.

    Members of the Education Committee – House
    Representative Fred Clark – 81st Assembly District (608) 266-7746
    Representative Dianne Hesselbein – 79th Assembly District (608) 266-5340
    Representative John Jagler (Vice-Chair) – 37th Assembly District (608) 266-9650
    Representative Steve Kestell (Chair) – 27th Assembly District (608) 266-8530
    Representative Howard Marklein – 51st Assembly District (608) 266-7502
    Representative Stephen Nass – 33rd Assembly District (608) 266-5715
    Representative Sondy Pope – 80th Assembly District (608) 266-3520
    Representative Don Pridemore – 22nd Assembly District (608) 267-2367
    Representative Erik Severson – 28th Assembly District (608) 267-2365
    Representative Jeremy Thiesfeldt – 52nd Assembly District (608) 266-3156
    Representative Mandy Wright – 85th Assembly District (608) 266-0654

    Email: Rep.Clark@legis.wisconsin.gov, Rep.Hesselbein@legis.wisconsin.gov, Rep.Jagler@legis.wisconsin.gov, Rep.Kestell@legis.wisconsin.gov Rep.Marklein@legis.wisconsin.gov, Rep.Nass@legis.wisconsin.gov, Rep.Pope@legis.wisconsin.gov, Rep.Pridemore@legis.wisconsin.gov, Rep.Severson@legis.wisconsin.gov, Rep.Thiesfeldt@legis.wisconsin.gov, Rep.Wright@legis.wisconsin.gov,

    Members of the Education Committee – Senate
    Senator Timothy Cullen – 15th Senate District (608) 266-2253
    Senator Alberta Darling – 8th Senate District (608) 266-5830
    Senator Paul Farrow (Vice-Chair) – 33rd Senate District (608) 266-9174
    Senator Richard Gudex – 18th Senate District (608) 266-5300
    Senator Nikiya Harris – 6th Senate District (608) 266-2500
    Senator John Lehman – 21st Senate District (608) 266-1832
    Senator Luther Olsen (Chair) – 14th Senate District (608) 266-0751
    Senator Kathleen Vinehout – 31st Senate District (608) 266-8546
    Senator Leah Vukmir – 5th Senate District (608) 266-2512

    Email: Sen.Cullen@legis.wisconsin.gov, Sen.Darling@legis.wisconsin.gov, Sen.Farrow@legis.wisconsin.gov, Sen.Gudex@legis.wisconsin.gov, Sen.Harris@legis.wisconsin.gov, Sen.Lehman@legis.wisconsin.gov, Sen.Olsen@legis.wisconsin.gov, Sen.Vinehout@legis.wisconsin.gov, Sen.Vukmir@legis.wisconsin.gov
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  7. Free Video Lectures on American History

    “American Heritage — From Colonial Settlement to the Reagan Revolution.”

    Hillsdale College is presenting 10 free lectures on the internet this Spring semester.

    This is a modern day ability to continue one’s education at home without driving, and at the time convenient to the student.
    Join me in this education opportunity. Lectures start Feb. 25th.

    Sign up at: https://online.hillsdale.edu/heritage/registration-rush

    Course Schedule
    Approximately 40 minutes in length, lectures will be released each Monday according to the schedule below. Once available, each week’s materials can be viewed at your convenience.

    1. Introduction: How to Think About American History
    Larry P. Arnn
    Lecture Available February 25

    2. Colonial Settlement
    Mark Kalthoff
    Lecture Available March 4

    3. Enlightenment and Natural Rights
    Terrence Moore
    Lecture Available March 11

    4. The American Founding
    Paul Rahe
    Lecture Available March 18

    5. Democracy: American Promise and its Dangers
    Paul Rahe
    Lecture Available March 25

    6. The Crisis of the Union
    David Raney
    Lecture Available April 1

    7. The Gilded Age and the Robber Barons
    Burt Folsom
    Lecture Available April 8

    8. Progressivism
    Paul Moreno
    Lecture Available April 15

    9. America as a World Power
    Tom Conner
    Lecture Available April 22

    10. The Reagan Revolution
    Terrence Moore
    Lecture Available April 29

  8. Paper Money – A u-tube lecture

    Neither an individual nor society can consume their way into prosperity. Both must produce more than they consume and invest the excess of production over consumption into productive capacity.

    A u-tube lecture. Minutes 29 to 42 are very good in describing where we are now and why money printing creates boom and bust cyscles. This lecture was given Nov. 2011.

  9. We will hear a lot of babble about the fiscal cliff.

    This video is a good explanation why nothing will be done on the budget except to kick the can down the road.

    Politicians live to survive today. Politicians don’t want to sacrifice their political career for the long term good of the country.

    http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/EW5IdwltaAc?rel=0

  10. Critical election Part II (or, the Neocon)

    …………But. But, if we place the blame solely on Obama and the democrats we will never return to a nation of liberty and prosperity. We can also point the finger at the republicans. And to the former, equally or, quite possibly more so, is the neocon. I am not attempting to demonize, merely to draw attention to a severe fault. The neocons have built up this façade that the Republican Party is the party of real “hope and change”, instead, drawing us ever farther away from our founding principles and the Constitution. Sure the Democrat Party is at present, almost entirely taken over by progressives—collectivists, and, secularists. But these same ideologies (except for maybe secularism) have—I believe more than at any time in history—infiltrated the Republican Party. When these certain, influential individuals, (all of whom are astute and well meaning) denigrate and mock who dare to speak out against the establishment, I think we are in deep trouble; there is little hope. Who are these good men (and woman), few in number, who are daring to stand up for liberty and the Constitution? They are not silent; their moist voices merely evaporate over the thermal updrafts from the burning constitution. They are the likes of Ron Paul, and his son, Rand. Quite simply, they are ignored, that is, unless, you may be of the tea-party mentality.

    All Tea Party groups are not created equal. I have been involved with the tea-party movement nearly since its inception. A good percentage, are simply props for the Republican Party—they are neocons. There are some, however, who are testing individual republican leadership. They are asking the tough questions, questions that aren’t always welcome. Rock River Patriots, here in Fort Atkinson, is one.

    I never understood what it meant to be a neocon, perhaps, because I once was. Although like everything else, there are degrees. I certainly have remnants, but now I hope through edification that I am at least wiser and more prepared. It’s curious how neocon can bring contempt just as the word liberal does. So, who are the neocons? Let’s start with Fox News. Don’t get me wrong, I watch Fox, though no longer religiously as I once did. What are we left with when it comes to television news, besides CBN (Christian Broadcasting Network)? As far as the other networks go, they only tell us what they wish to tell us; they are mostly one sided, except for the occasional conservative guest (usually a “lightweight”); have completely abandoned critical journalism (until it comes to republicans, conservatives, or evangelicals); and, the tone, it has developed into something very, corrosive. You could even say they helped to elect, or even create our current president. Though in essence an arm of the democrat party, overall, these networks have become irrelevant. PBS, and to a lesser degree, CNN, might be the only two out of these to have any fragment left of a thoughtful, critical analysis. Sadly, some are relying on the likes of Jon Stewart or Bill Maher. Stewart, especially, has a particular hold on the younger generation. Even though Fox, too, is playing the game [maybe a hand for the republicans instead of an arm (not to mention, Catholicism)], they haven’t yet lost all cohesiveness with reality. As I said, there are many levels. Even with the questionable expelling of Glenn Beck and Judge Andrew Napolitano, Fox Business may have the best and most complete news and informational programming on television. From my perspective Neil Cavuto heads the lineup, while the transformed John Stossel sings the praise of traditional liberalism (currently labeled libertarianism). Stossel is currently their lone voice of unfettered capitalism. Although, as a secular humanist or, rationalist (though he doesn’t fall into the traps of collectivism that is so often associated with humanism) and, a materialist, all in the line of Ayn Rand and Hayek, their world-view—without Natural Law and creator God—ultimately collapses into dichotomy. We could say the brilliant mind of Fox News contributor Charles Krauthammer is of the same breath, but unlike Stossel, he too, is a neocon. Surely we can’t put the beloved Sean Hannity in this group? Yes, we most certainly can. How about Bill O’Reilly? He tries so hard to be fair and balanced that he ends up compromising conservatism and morality. He is a slow learner, although he seems to be gradually getting it. I see Chris Wallace (perhaps one of the best in his field) and Carl Cameron doing much the same when it comes to trying to be overly fair. What I mean by this, is giving the liberal or democrat a free ride while pushing the conservative or republican. They don’t want to come off as biased. The gentle Greta Van Susteren is the proverbial, calm and collected attorney, hot on the trail with her style of direct interrogation. I believe her perception of the world is gradually becoming clearer as well. In comparison, I feel where Fox shines is when it comes to welcoming both sides of the debate.

    Obviously we now have a myriad of choices. The newest outlet is the internet; there are many advantages, but surf at your will and beware of those rogue waves. I think it is an excellent source for information that cannot be found anywhere else. AM radio is still alive and indeed doing very well. Syndicated, as well as local conservative talk radio excels far beyond its counterpart. Though here, too, the neocons are in charge, except for a handful who, are almost always agnostics, deists, pluralists, or even atheists. And again, Public Radio can offer valuable information at times. Therefore what I’m trying to say is that it’s imperative we expand our sources, but eliminate those that are especially harmful. So with only hints of civility how can we possibly choose what’s beneficial when we all struggle to some degree? It’s simple, the Spirit and the Word.

    One voice, considered to be the king of talk radio [and rightly (pun intended) so], and also a neocon, was brutally honest, and correct to say, “I hope Obama fails”. Both sides attacked Rush. Some, out of ignorance, or, stored hatred, while others, simply to divorce themselves. All are wrong, but the latter is cowardly. If we are to understand Obama’s agenda and ideology as a form of advanced collectivism, why on earth would any freedom loving American want him to succeed? As Christian’s, it is not authoritative that we be nice. Being nice will never work. Nice, is not the same thing as love. Nice is probably fine when you say your neighbors homemade desert was good when in actually it was rather mediocre. But when we try to be nice, as not to stir the pot, we are doing a disservice at the least, and at worst, subjugating God and compromising His Word. Even with this crushing blow sent down upon some of you, I confess, I could never fill any one of those shoes mentioned, for I would fail in the attempt. I am sure by now many of my liberal friends are smiling over my “attacks” against the republicans and conservatives. Wipe the smile, for now we are getting back to that wonderfully “magical”, greatly encompassing thing, called love. For some of course, all this is just utter nonsense.

    Within all the chatter, one question is virtually silent. Does anyone think to ask it? Does anyone understand how revealing and enlightening the question will be? Much could be learned about an individual, with one simple question. What is our time worth? Though once asked, the sideshows have nothing to talk about, and we can’t have that. So the bickering goes on. World-view, what is your world view?
    I hope my propensity for attempting to cover excessive ground hasn’t left too many platitudes. I have already gone way over what I had planned to write. I thank you for reading this far. Let’s get back to the main event, the election—the popularity contest.

    I forced myself to watch (scrutinize) all three debates, including the VP. All one needs to do is go to Proverbs 18, 26, and 29. Biden’s planned clown show didn’t work. Ryan held steady. Catholicism was on show as well. Sadly, we are discussing when, how, or whether we should kill babies. I am hoping that Ryan truly believes in the fiscally responsible, Laissez-faire side to Ayn Rand and he is only being reasonable for now.

    Romney was superb and even shed the plastic shell. He did what he needed to do, not much more. I was hoping for some knockouts, but maybe I am naive to ask for that much. Nevertheless, perhaps it’s better that way. If you have ever taken a glimpse at genuine poverty you will instantly understand how nonsensical it is when Romney speaks about the large and growing numbers of poverty stricken here in America. There is no comparison. Our so called impoverished are blessed when compared to the rest of the world. Does that mean all is fine? certainly not. But to bring them out or, upward, Obama and the democrats plan is to tax the producers and redistribute (all in the belief that it’s a zero sum game) the wealth to those who are not even paying taxes (at least mostly not visible taxes). Instead of getting them out of poverty they are keeping them in poverty. And I believe that is their plan; to keep them subservient to the state. After all, they are a sure vote. But are they? That may change. I think there are a few that are catching on to the game. Pitting segments of the population against each other has certainly worked to a degree. One group is seniors (a horrible labeling by the way), with the use of scare tactics. Many seasoned citizens are selfishly willing to sacrifice their grandchildren’s future for a false security net. Besides what our new president and the republicans will do—at least expect—is too create a business friendly environment for the creation of jobs and slow spending. The other big difference between the democrats and the republicans (it hasn’t always been that way) is on life. Life is to be protected. The democrats have forsaken the Constitution, not to mention God.

    But don’t think if Romney is elected we can just sit idly by. I would have much rather of had Ron Paul leading our country or even Gary Johnson for a short time. But it is too late now to be voting third party; too late for our country. There was a time when we should have been working to get true bible believing constitutionalists into the oval office. It is now imperative that we stop the Obama machine. Then, let’s work on getting those Christians elected into our local offices. It starts locally. Ultimately the responsibility rests in the hands of the believers. We can’t blame anyone else.

    Finally, if there are any Christian friends out there who are considering voting for Obama, or Tammy Baldwin in our state, please, reconsider. If you feel you can’t vote for a republican then I feel it would be better not vote for either one. Forget about Obama’s past, and his relationships. It is an extensive list and I have far exhausted what I had planned, but consider only the issues of abortion and marriage. According to the Bible God knows us before conception and He created man and woman to be one, while condemning homosexuality. Voting for two people who are for unfettered abortion and the redefining of marriage go against our Lord’s teachings. What feels right to us may not be what’s right in God’s eyes. Not only may our nation be judged, but each of us as individuals. I ask that you meditate on this and consider the ramifications.

    And as far as the so called “undecideds” go, how can a person be undecided unless he was in a coma for the last half decade?

    In addition, it is widely thought that both sides viciously attack and are equally corrupt. This is simply not the case. It is pure myth. Naturally, world-view will affect how you look at this as well. It’s all about our world view.

    Scott

    • Scotty, there is a separation between chunch and state. Please leave god out of your arguments for a one party system. As far as your comments on undecideds, you forgot us indepedents who vote issues and people not party. For example I still think we need high speed rail in the United States which icludes WI. I respect the opinion of the majority which say NO.

  11. Tommy or Tammy?

    Seldom have voters faced starker choices than in this year’s election. Both presidential and senate races offer candidates with nearly opposite views and voting records.

    Many backed other candidates in the primaries. Yet, if voters want changes we have fought so hard for, such as eliminating federal deficits and returning to constitutional government, we can’t let differences in specific objectives and governance stand between us and our ultimate goals.

    Libertarians, including many Ron Paul backers: Are you willing to abandon good, if less-than-perfect efforts to re-establish market-based economics just to teach Republicans a lesson? If Obamacare—now being implemented—is not quickly overturned by a new President and Congress, we will not recognize the U.S. by 2016. First we must secure both the White House and Congress. Electing more conservative representatives will be the ongoing plan.

    Consider specifics. We are familiar with the differences in style and substance between the presidential candidates. Most Wisconsin voters are acquainted with former governor Tommy Thompson. He served as governor for fourteen years before leaving for Washington to head the Department of Health and Human Services. Then he then returned to Wisconsin.

    He reformed welfare by modifying eligibility and instituting reasonable work requirements. He established school choice for under-served minorities in our major cities. His ground-breaking initiatives served as an example for Governor Walker’s stand opposing powerful public-sector unions burdening Wisconsin taxpayers with unworkable budgets.

    Tommy faces opponent Rep. Tammy Baldwin for the Senate. Baldwin, a Madison progressive, was unfamiliar to most voters before she began campaigning late in 2011. She faced little opposition and gained a head-start against the GOP candidate.

    Her plan was convincing out-state voters she was a moderate with their interests at heart, that she held their conservative values—such as owning a gun. As Dane county board member she introduced legislation several times that would have restricted gun ownership for Madison residents. How she appears at town-hall meetings, away from her Congressional constituents, and what she actually represents are very different things.

    The NRA and the American Conservative Union pegged her voting record (an “F” and zero, respectively) as even more liberal than Nancy Pelosi’s or Harry Reid’s. Her record may be acceptable to most Dane county voters, but it’s not acceptable to Wisconsin voters, once they see her performance. Voters will do well to remember “caveat emptor”, or buyers beware, before entering the voting booth.

    Bill Balgord, consultant and writer, heads E&RT in Middleton.

  12. Low Interest rate is an underhanded government tax.
    If you or your pension fund is holding interest denominated investments (like bonds or CDs, etc.) the Government is taxing you by low interest rates.
    The Federal Government is fixing the interest rates. By fixing the interest rate below a free market rate, government passes the costs of government spending unto the citizens who save money.
    Government tells the public they have interest rates low for the good of the people (economy).
    The unspoken reason Government has low interest rates is to deceive the public of the true costs of their spending spree to buy votes.

  13. This information must be shared with neighbors, friends, co worker, and family members. This may be the reason why President Obama didn’t wish to make a certain claim in regards to the death of the Embassador at Benghazi.
    Subject: Fwd: Fox News Was Blocked From Showing This Clip – here it is !
    Subject: Fwd: Fox News Was Blocked From Showing This Clip – here it is !
    When pressure from the government eliminates free speech we are in trouble. At least the internet is still free at this time.
    Les

    Subject: Fox News Was Blocked From Showing This Clip – here it is !

    MUST SEE

    Sure wish the media would just let the public see these tapes. Amazing!
    This makes it very clear who you are voting for, is this who you want to be our President?
    MAKES YOU WONDER HOW ON EARTH DID THIS MAN BECOME PRESIDENT OF OUR UNITED STATES?????

    CLICK ON THE ADDRESS AT THE BOTTOM IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHO THE PRESIDENT REALLY IS !!!!

    Remember when we were told to watch Fox News on a Sunday night that was going to air something about Obama and we watched but never saw anything! Well, read below and click on the video to see why it got pulled before it could air
    Now we know why Fox News never broadcast it as they had originally planned to. This piece was pulled.

    *I encourage you to please send this to everyone on your email list ASAP.*
    *Remember all the notices we kept getting to watch Fox News on Sunday at 9PM? What Happened?*
    *This is the clip that got pulled due to pressure from the Administration.*
    Obama Puts Heat on Fox News to Prevent Sean Hannity from airing this piece.
    *This is a video that Sean Hannity of FOX News has been trying to show that we are told has consistently been blocked by the Obama Administration for several weeks. It was a matter of time until the internet picked it up.*
    *Watch it now before it gets pulled from the internet!*

    http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

    Forward to as many and as quickly
    as you can!
    — IN GOD WE TRUST

  14. Concerned American Citizens
    We recently learned that an alarming number of Muslim terrorists have been and still are walking into our Country across the Mexican border. Once across the border they group together and form cells. Their sole purpose is to kill as many Americans as possible. Same as 9-11 only worse. Muslims are building Islamic training camps in America. On your computer look up “Muslim terrorist in America”. You’ll be shocked. Also look up
    “The Muslim Brotherhood’s American goals”. Their plan is to convert the U.S. into a Muslim country and have us live under the Islamic law [ Sharia Law]. They also intend to replace our Constitution with the Qur’an. Do you as an American REALLY want that???
    Also crossing our border are Communists from Cuba and South America. Also Mexican drug cartel members that are establishing drug distribution areas to sell drugs to our children and anybody else. Also just walking into our Country are Mexican gang members, starting new gangs. Also the usual amount of Mexicans which are trying to take jobs away from Americans. You would think that the Unions and their members would want to close the border to stop this influx of labor straining the unemployment ranks even further.
    We also found out that Obama knows all about these border crossings and is doing NOTHING about it. He is actually fighting the people who want to close the border. Just ask the people in Arizona. He is the ONLY President in history to side with a foreign country [Mexico] against his fellow Americans in Arizona. Obama’s actions in allowing all these undesirable criminal types to illegally enter OUR COUNTRY and encouraging them, tells me that Obama has something else planned for America.
    At the Democratic convention, one of the topics brought up to be put into the platform was the closing of the border. The entire Democratic audience let out a very loud BOO. The closing of the border was turned down. We said to ourselves, ’What the hell is wrong with these people?’ Don’t they know what is going on at OUR border?? These people are clueless. This is one of the reason this letter was written.
    On Oct. 11th Joe Biden and Paul Ryan had their debate. In his opening statement Biden said “The Presidents FIRST RESPONSIBILITY is the national SECURITY of the Country.” We thought to ourselves – this is the kind of bull that comes from the present administration. Obama is letting ILLEGALS walk into our Country. The definitions of ILLEGAL are –“against the law“–” violating the law”. He then rewards them by giving them free medical,- welfare,- and OUR Social Security. Now you know why we are running out of Social Security. Is this what Obama calls national SECURITY.
    In debate #2 Obama said he is for the Second Amendment. That is another lie. He has a secret plan to destroy the Second Amendment by 2016. It’s already in the works.
    In debate #3 Obama said “The biggest threat to our national security is China”. Another lie. The biggest threat to America is that THOUSANDS of ILLEGALS are walking into our country, destroying our economy and taking jobs away from American citizens.
    The FIRST duty of the President of the U.S. is to protect all Americans. The question that arises now is, WHY is Obama NOT closing the border?? Nothing good can come from all these ILLEGAL undesirables INVADING OUR country. We fought several wars to keep this Country free and to keep it a Democracy. America is being invaded by foreigners and our President is doing NOTHING to stop it. It doesn’t look good for the American people.
    If the President of the U.S. is incapable OR doesn’t care to protect the American people, then he really shouldn’t be President. It makes you wonder whose side he’s really on.
    Folks,- we are being fed a steady stream of lies by Obama. What you see now is NOT the real Obama. If he gets re-elected then we will see the REAL Obama. Then God help America.
    Angry American Veterans
    Please pass this on to ALL Americans, Democrats and Republicans. As American citizens they have a right to know what is going on. We are the ones that will suffer if all these people aren’t stopped before it’s too late.
    EVIL WILL SUCCEED IF GOOD PEOPLE DO NOTHING

    Concerned American Citizens
    We recently learned that an alarming number of Muslim terrorists have been and still are walking into our Country across the Mexican border. Once across the border they group together and form cells. Their sole purpose is to kill as many Americans as possible. Same as 9-11 only worse. Muslims are building Islamic training camps in America. On your computer look up “Muslim terrorist in America”. You’ll be shocked. Also look up
    “The Muslim Brotherhood’s American goals”. Their plan is to convert the U.S. into a Muslim country and have us live under the Islamic law [ Sharia Law]. They also intend to replace our Constitution with the Qur’an. Do you as an American REALLY want that???
    Also crossing our border are Communists from Cuba and South America. Also Mexican drug cartel members that are establishing drug distribution areas to sell drugs to our children and anybody else. Also just walking into our Country are Mexican gang members, starting new gangs. Also the usual amount of Mexicans which are trying to take jobs away from Americans. You would think that the Unions and their members would want to close the border to stop this influx of labor straining the unemployment ranks even further.
    We also found out that Obama knows all about these border crossings and is doing NOTHING about it. He is actually fighting the people who want to close the border. Just ask the people in Arizona. He is the ONLY President in history to side with a foreign country [Mexico] against his fellow Americans in Arizona. Obama’s actions in allowing all these undesirable criminal types to illegally enter OUR COUNTRY and encouraging them, tells me that Obama has something else planned for America.
    At the Democratic convention, one of the topics brought up to be put into the platform was the closing of the border. The entire Democratic audience let out a very loud BOO. The closing of the border was turned down. We said to ourselves, ’What the hell is wrong with these people?’ Don’t they know what is going on at OUR border?? These people are clueless. This is one of the reason this letter was written.
    On Oct. 11th Joe Biden and Paul Ryan had their debate. In his opening statement Biden said “The Presidents FIRST RESPONSIBILITY is the national SECURITY of the Country.” We thought to ourselves – this is the kind of bull that comes from the present administration. Obama is letting ILLEGALS walk into our Country. The definitions of ILLEGAL are –“against the law“–” violating the law”. He then rewards them by giving them free medical,- welfare,- and OUR Social Security. Now you know why we are running out of Social Security. Is this what Obama calls national SECURITY.
    In debate #2 Obama said he is for the Second Amendment. That is another lie. He has a secret plan to destroy the Second Amendment by 2016. It’s already in the works.
    In debate #3 Obama said “The biggest threat to our national security is China”. Another lie. The biggest threat to America is that THOUSANDS of ILLEGALS are walking into our country, destroying our economy and taking jobs away from American citizens.
    The FIRST duty of the President of the U.S. is to protect all Americans. The question that arises now is, WHY is Obama NOT closing the border?? Nothing good can come from all these ILLEGAL undesirables INVADING OUR country. We fought several wars to keep this Country free and to keep it a Democracy. America is being invaded by foreigners and our President is doing NOTHING to stop it. It doesn’t look good for the American people.
    If the President of the U.S. is incapable OR doesn’t care to protect the American people, then he really shouldn’t be President. It makes you wonder whose side he’s really on.
    Folks,- we are being fed a steady stream of lies by Obama. What you see now is NOT the real Obama. If he gets re-elected then we will see the REAL Obama. Then God help America.
    Angry American Veterans
    Please pass this on to ALL Americans, Democrats and Republicans. As American citizens they have a right to know what is going on. We are the ones that will suffer if all these people aren’t stopped before it’s too late.
    EVIL WILL SUCCEED IF GOOD PEOPLE DO NOTHING

  15. Central Planners
    The condition of mankind was determined by Central Planners for thousands of years. During that time there was no significant improvement in mankind’s material life.

    Then in some areas it was decided that individual people should determine their own life condition. This idea, known as liberty, led to great leaps in the arts, medicine, transportation, housing, and communication, freedom from government abuse, and on and on.

    Every generation though, has elitists who believe by superior intellect and moral caring they are entitled to hold power over other’s lives. And oh how convincing they can talk about their goals of taking care of us.

    Of course their great plans don’t work, so they have to return to the methods used for thousands of years by central planners to keep control: class and tribal hatred and fear, and foreign enemies.

    This is what I thought as I listened to Obama’s great speech Thursday afternoon.

  16. Hey, guys, in case you haven’t heard, not only does your paycheck belong to the government, apparently so do you… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gLa9Te8Blw

    • My paycheck comes from the government as SS. You and I control the government by voting. If your canidate wins he/she will try to implement your ideas, WHILE also representing the 48% or so who did vote for him/her.

      Don’t forget to vote in Nov.

  17. Edit your own trash, Jerry.

  18. According to the Sunday Journal….Use of coal to generate power down, clean air up. I wonder what the coal company mouthpiece, Dr Soon has to say about this?

  19. something all American citizens should know about. this has actually awakened a few idiots who voted for obama last time around http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Hundreds-Line-Up-For-Dream-Relief-Workshop-166236466.html
    . need the database of those applying for Obamanightmare program to cross reference against voter registration rolls and poll records…

    • The few idiots were the majority. Funny how democracy works, every four years all the idiots, both right and left ,get to vote(if they have a voter ID in some states) and the majority picks who they want for President for the next four years.

      Please encourage all the idiots, right and left, to vote in November

  20. FROM the WSJ:
    STATE SHOULDN’T INFLATE GAS PRICES
    ‘If the law wasn’t in effect, we could have cheaper gas.’

    Gas prices approached $4 a gallon in Madison this week and hit a record $4.20 per gallon in Milwaukee.
    Everybody with a set of car keys seems to be talking about it – especially the Republican candidates for president, who are wooing Wisconsin voters in the days before Tuesday’s primary here.
    Yet more domestic oil drilling and refineries can’t occur overnight. Neither can a conversion to alternative fuels.
    What could happen quickly, if only state leaders would prioritize the issue, is repeal of Wisconsin’s minimum markup law.
    “If the law wasn’t in effect, we could have cheaper gas and bring the market lower,” Clint Woodman said Thursday. He’s the vice president of Woodman’s Food Markets, a grocery store chain with gas stations in about 10 locations across Wisconsin.
    The minimum markup law, dating to the 1930s, bans the sale of products at below cost and, in some cases, requires prices to be marked up to minimum levels. Gasoline must be marked up 9.18 percent over the local wholesale price or 6 percent over cost, whichever is higher.
    Supporters claim the law prevents big businesses from temporarily dropping prices to run small competitors out of business or scare away new competition. But few “mom and pop” gas stations exist these days. And federal law already protects against predatory pricing.
    Moreover, Wisconsin survived just fine during most of 2009 and 2010 when the minimum markup law on gasoline wasn’t enforced. A judge struck down the state law’s archaic provisions inflating fuel prices – only to have a federal appeals court to eventually bring them back from the dead.
    The legal questions would be mute if Wisconsin leaders, from Gov. Scott Walker on down, would simply repeal the law. All it does is “protect” consumers from lower prices.
    Clint Woodman said his gas stations in Madison and elsewhere could lower their per-gallon prices if the state law were repealed. Woodman’s doesn’t accept credit cards, for example, which saves on fees. He said savings could be passed on to motorists – if only the state would allow it.
    Woodman’s also could bring back its gas discount for customers who also buy groceries, something that went away in the Madison area when the court brought the law back to life.
    Wisconsin should stop artificially pumping up gas prices.

  21. William Balgord is a consultant and writer from Middleton

    My Take on the Upcoming Primary
    Wed, 08/08/2012 – 19:18 | William D. Balgord

    I attended a luncheon for Tommy Thompson in La Crosse on Friday. He is as feisty as ever–even at 70. What he had to say answered any lingering questions about his ability to run a good campaign and go on to serve six years in the U.S. Senate. Some will say he is too old, but if you had listened to him you would swear he looks and sounds like he’s not a day over 60. He looks even better in person than when photographed.

    He tells a convincing narrative about who he is and what he’s done for Wisconsin during 38 years of public service. He’s clear as a bell explaining why he would like to be Wisconsin’s next senator. Without notes or teleprompter. His policy positions can be found at his website: http://tommyforwisconsin.com.

    Taken together, they display an amazing command of issues we face as a nation: the out-of-control spending and spiraling debt, the threat from Iran and Obama’s flagging support for our national defense, the disjointed energy policies and what it will take to solve them, and replacing Obamacare with workable health reforms. He knows that issue inside out.

    Yesterday morning I listened to Eric Hovde being interviewed over Wausau radio while I drove back to La Crosse. He started off grousing about how the campaign had turned negative, and how Thompson and Neumann were slinging mud at him. If I recall correctly, some of Hovde’s earlier ads accused Thompson of being too much the Washington insider and having supported Obamacare (which he didn’t). Hovde himself spent much of his professional life in Washington, while Thompson served as Wisconsin governor until 2001, when called by Bush to head HHS.

    According to Hovde, Neumann voted four times for extending the federal debt limit as a congressman. My understanding is any senator or representative will have cast enough votes after one term to provide more than enough fodder for his next opponent’s campaign.

    But my real concern with Hovde is what we don’t know about him. This is the first time he has run for public office and, in my opinion, he has not been properly vetted. To me that means there is an opportunity for the Dems to pour through dirty laundry–if there is any to be found. We just don’t know. But you and I do know the Dems are the world experts at playing that game. Remember how Obama got elected, thanks to David Axelrod and Chicago, Inc.

    The other candidate being given a chance is Mark Neumann. I probably agree with Mark on more of the issues than with either Thompson or Hovde (I’d think) since he is also a strong social conservative. But if Neumann should win, more money will flood into the state for darling Tammy than anyone can imagine. It will come from California, New York, the DC area and anywhere else the libs may call home.

    We absolutely must nominate someone who can beat her. It is a high stakes game winning back both the Senate and a four-year lease on 1600 PA Ave.

    I hope you will be visiting the polls next Tuesday, and will vote for who you think is the conservative candidate with the best chance to beat liberal Baldwin. We don’t need another senator like mild Herb representing Wisconsin right now. Once in office liberals are very, very difficult to get rid of.

    • Tommy won and leads in the polls against Tammy. I don’t know the difference from CA money and Koch money, may the best person win.

  22. Has Jerry taken an English class today?

  23. People are fed up with paying gas prices that are again approaching $4.00 a gallon for gasoline.

    Blame your legislators in Madison for helping to keep gas prices high. The Wisconsin state government has a law on the books that legally prevented customers from getting a good deal on motor fuel. That is exactly what the 1939 Wisconsin’s minimum markup law accomplishes. In 1939, Wisconsin passed the minimum markup law – or as it formally known, the Unfair Sales Act – which purported to help keep small businesses afloat during the Great Depression. The Act required retailers to mark up their products a certain percentage over their wholesale price. In theory, this was supposed to keep large retailers from undercutting the prices of smaller “mom and pop” gas stations, which could drive the smaller gas stations out of business.

    Wisconsin’s minimum markup law currently cost the Wisconsin citizen 30.2 cents per gallon of gasoline as a result of the law. As a result, minimum markup has almost eclipsed the state’s 32.9-cent auto fuel tax, which is currently 9th highest in the nation.

    The “mom and pop” gas stations have long past into history. Get state government out of the price control business, write your legislators and the Governor and ask them to repeal the minimum markup law as applied to motor fuel.

  24. RRP says, “You let me know of someone who needs a ride to get an ID, and we will find someone in our area to take them to the DMV. The DMV also has mobile license centers that could be brought into areas for people to get their IDs.”

    Looking for to your ad in the Union and Times offering help, advice and transportation to those without ID in the RRP area.

  25. RRP says, “Cheap energy is good for all Americans. ” Has RRP filled up there truck today?

  26. Rich and powerful? and I didn’t think anything could be funnier than the afp comments…..I’ll have to tell everyone at work to watch out for me tonight, because I am rich and powerful.. oh, well.. better than what these brainwashed dolts usually call us.

    • Sally the rich and powerful try, I repeat try, to control public opinion. For example, the Koch brothers(AFP) have an on going effort to convince the public that the products that make their father and by inheritance them billionaires (oil) does not add to gobal warming. Some people are foolish enought to believe them, hopefully not you and the RRP.

      • Cheap energy is good for all Americans. Man-made global warming is a scam and has been proven to be so. Everyone wants a clean environment, but all of the regulation of carbon dioxide is not going to do anything except cripple industry in the U.S. forcing them to go to places like China and Russia, who will never follow a carbon dioxide regulatory program because it is economic suicide.

        Any climate change we see is the result of solar cycles. We are in a very active time in the cycle as is evidenced by all of the solar flares we have had recently.

  27. and someone with some modesty, as well.

  28. This Jerry person certainly has an AFP fetish, doesn’t he? It’s really kinda funny… considering….no, sorry, I can’t stop laughing long enough.

    • Sally, my feelings of all Super PAC’s, right or left are certainly not a fetish. A fetish applies to :
      1. any material object supposed to have magic power. Ex. The tribe worshiped a fetish that was a hideous snake trying to control the hearts and minds of the people.
      2. (Figurative.) anything regarded with unreasoning reverence or blind devotion. Ex. Some people make a fetish of political parties.
      3. an object or a part of the body that arouses abnormal erotic feeling. Ex. Gun nuts, which has nothing to do with the right to bear arms.

      The word I would use is desdain.

      1. to desdain super PAC’s. Ex The Rock River Patriots destain super PAC’s, considering them unworthy of consideration.

  29. Senators Fitzgerald and Miller, thank you for coming to quick agreement on legal documentation related to redistricting. I hope, because of the interest in this subject, that the legal papers will be placed on the internet and highlights published in state newspapers before November.

    In business, which seems to be the model for government recently, contracts are never, I repeat, never written to be dependent on a person, i.e. Senator Fitzgerald. They are always written in the name of the corporation. Redistricting contracts should have been written in the name of the State of Wisconsin. Individuals can holdup a corporation/state for higher salaries and special concession, upon a designated individuals death the contract may be void, if the individual leaves the corporation/state it may also negate the contract. People’s names are sometimes placed in contracts, but always with safe guards that make it clear that their participation is not necessary for completion of the contract. In the future, please assure taxpayers that the state is at least as wise as the private sector by specifying contact language that is never dependent on individuals by name.

    I do understand nondisclosure agreements during negotiation, but not during implementation and fulfillment of state (taxpayer) paid for contracts. The contacts and their result are the property of the public. Please correct this problem in future state contracts.

    Thank you

  30. ok, had to laugh about the afp comment, considering what we learned about them what, 2 years ago, now? tooooooooo funny. Just wondering if the daily unionista paper mentioned which schools the guy in their story attended, or which stores he shops at, etc? After all, he only attended 1 meeting, but one goes to school or shops more than a once.
    As to the judge… yeah…. more likely a friend of Shirley Abrahamson(sp?) than say.. Randy Koshknick?

  31. Alas, since I no longer comment on this site it has become boring and I think an AFP controlled site. maybe you tea baggers are smoking something other than tea? Or possibly you have realized that being controlled by gambling money out of Vegas or oil money out of Kansas and New York is not, I repeat is not a goal of the tea party?

    • Actually, we are just very busy right now. Keep dreaming…we are not controlled by anyone! Hence the reason no one likes us! LOL

      • When people think “no one likes them” they are usually diagnosed as paranoid.

        The good thing about the tea party is that the membership are concerned about good government. The problem with the tea party is the leadership, at a local and national level. The leadership is in the pocket of organizations such as AFP and other special interest groups. For example, most people right or left are for concealed carry. Rock River Patriots(RRP) did an excellent job of helping to assure that the laws in Wisconsin were changed to enforce this right. But then the leadership who control this site supported changes to the Wisconsin mining laws so that a Florida based company could “rape” Wisconsin resources without regrad to the people living in the area of the mine. In other words they(RRP) are in the pocket of the mining industry or the republican party who have put the state for sale to the rich and large corporations. They(RRP) are for voter ID knowing that the republicans are pushing this law to restrict people from voting. I would suggest that RRP leadership relook at who and what they are for and stick to the constitution. By the way, I’m for voter ID, but only if government help little old ladies in rural Wisconsin with out driver licenses and birth certificates obtain a state ID.

      • You let me know of someone who needs a ride to get an ID, and we will find someone in our area to take them to the DMV. The DMV also has mobile license centers that could be brought into areas for people to get their IDs.

  32. Hi, there folks.. Just wondering if you are aware that weac is sponsoring a saul alinsky workshop this weekend.. straight from the Industrial Areas(what does that mean, anyway?) Just wondering if we shouldn’t hold our own?
    Be sure to put my name on this, I don’t need to hide.
    Sally Horton

  33. RRP is for individual freedom, but very unsure what that is… RRP seems to think that freedoms have no responsibilities. For example they are for a mining law that favors mining companies, but against anyone in the area of the purposed mine that questions the impact of the mine, they are for raw milk sales, but against those that may be affected by the diseases that can be transmitted by by raw milk users. They favor the purposed wind mill laws, without understanding that it is being “pushed” by energy companies that profit by pushing wind energy in other states and imported it to Wisconsin. They are against high speed rail, and do not realize the age of the airline and airports are drawing to an end. I fear that RRP is funded from an external source that leads them to conclusions that favor their interest, not the interest of all. RRP should stick to the constitution and leave government to elected officials that represent all the people.

    THINK

    • We are advocates for freedom and returning to the constitution. Too bad you don’t understand the principles of freedom and liberty.

      On mining…Lake Wazee in Black River Falls was once a Taconite mine. Now, it is a great recreational area that offers diving, hiking, biking, and more. It was not devastating to the environment like all are claiming the proposed mine further north will be.

      On High speed rail…a waste of money because it does not pay for itself.

      On Raw Milk…I covered this already.

      • It is good that you have studied the issues and come to your conclusions. Hopefully the RRP members will also do the same and follow their convictions, not those of some moneyed organizartion that seems to guide the RRP.

        Vote people and issues not party.

      • Whatever Jerry…You don’t have to follow what we do. Look at the “About Us” section on the site. That is what guides the RRP, and no one else. Funny, how much it bugs you that we have members who care enough to put their money where their mouth is.

      • Did the mine comply with Wisconsin law as currently written.

        THINK

      • The purpose of the mining bill was to limit the amount of money and time that the company had to invest before knowing if they would even be approved for the mining project. It is understandable to want an approval within a year and not invest a ton of money into legal fees to fight for something that may never happen (if the radical environmentalists have their way).

  34. Hello fellow RRP, has anyone else read the article from the Campaign for Liberty link about several states passing laws to block the implementation of the 2012 NDAA detainment and other provisions?The States v. NDAA Detention Provisions
    Virginia, Tennessee, and Washington State are the first States to fire back at the federal government ( The Obama Administration for signing and the Congress for passing) for the National Defense Authorization Act’s (NDAA) detention provisions.

    In Virginia, HB 1160 was recently introduced. It protects against the unconstitutional detention of United States citizens. The bill “prevents any agency, political subdivision, employee, or member of the military of Virginia from assisting an agency or the armed forces of the United States in the investigation, prosecution, or detainment of a United States citizen in violation of the Constitution of Virginia.”

    I was wondering if anyone knew of any such legislation pending here in Wi.?

  35. Constitution 101 Course

    I just found this online course.

    No grades. Free but they will take donations.

    I had a Constitutional Law Course as an undergrad. The understanding I got from that class has greatly helped me.

    http://www.hillsdaleoffer.com/constitution101

    Begins February 20, 2012

    About Constitution 101
    “Constitution 101: The Meaning and History of the Constitution” is a 10-week online course presented by Hillsdale College.
    An expanded format from the “Introduction to the Constitution” lecture series with Hillsdale College President Dr. Larry Arnn, Constitution 101 follows closely the one-semester course required of all Hillsdale College undergraduate students.
    In this course, you can:
    • Watch lectures from the same Hillsdale faculty who teach on campus;
    • Study the same readings taught in the College course;
    • Submit questions for weekly Q&A sessions with the faculty;
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    http://www.hillsdaleoffer.com/constitution101

  36. My wife said, ” that I should get a carry permit” because I wrote the following published letter to the editor of a couple papers. I told her those who read the constitution wouldn’t object..

    It is ironic that one of the instigators of the recall petitions, State Senator Scott Fitzgerald, is complaining about the cost to have him, other republican senators and Governor Walker recalled. It seems he doesn’t understand how little he has done to defend democracy in the state of Wisconsin. For example, his support of a voter ID law, not to reduce voter fraud, but to prevent minorities, students and the elderly from voting, will cost the state millions of dollars to implement and is a direct attack on citizen’s right to vote. In addition, the state will lose millions of dollars in state ID revenue (it cost $28 to obtain a state ID before the law was passed, they are now free) for perpetuity. He and his brother’s gerrymandering of districts to favor his party have resulted in hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees paid for by the taxpayers. As the world marvels at a third county, China, successes with high speed rail he sat silent while the Governor rejected high speed rail in Jefferson County, which would have put the county on the fast track for the future.

    It is time for the Fitzgerald dynasty (his brother is head of the state assembly, his father was appointed “top cop”, head of the state patrol by the governor) to end.

    It is a shame that all the local people who worked so hard to gather signatures to make the recall of Senator Fitzgerald and Governor Walker possible did not get more recognition for the outstanding job they have done. I can only say, thank you for making this recall possible.

    • I would hardly call Fitzgerald an instigator. This is really about who will control the State of Wisconsin. Will it be the teacher’s unions or the taxpayers?

      High speed rail is a scam and not self supporting. They are a drain on cities all over the country.

      • RRP..You didn’t read the letter. I’m not a teacher, I’m not a union member Fitz is in the pocket of big money and needs to be replaced. If high speed rail is a scam, what about airports? Do you think they are self supporting?

        Time for you to qoute Washington, Adams and Jefferson on the need for high speed rail and airports. Stick to the Consititution leave transportation to goverment…..

  37. Is the RRP independent or a right wing group of know nothing that measure barrel length over intelligence?

    • Nice Jerry, again you revert to being derogatory. RRP is closer to libertarian than anything, The left right paradigm is part of the dialectic.

  38. The assembly with the help of outside money want you to make Wisconsin into a waste land People in Fort Akinson have no “dog in the race” when destorying Wisconsin’s enviroment….Who is the Cline Group in Plam Beach FL that is push this bill?

  39. “Jerry, I’m sure you can help these folks since you are so concerned. Thanks in advance.” RRP not to intelligence answer to restricting voters rights.

    Sorry can’t do it by myself, I need the help of true independents who are on the payroll of the Koch brothers and other like people trying to control Wisconsin. But RRP is right I’m concerned

    See y’all at the polls..

  40. When the recall election finally occur, vote for the people that support your constitutuinal right to vote

    • One eligible voter – one vote…confirmed with an I.D. Pretty simple.

      • Unless you’re Black, elderly or a student.

      • Really Jerry? That is pretty harsh on your part toward black, elderly, and student voters. Do you consider them to ignorant or incapable of getting an ID? In that case you could claim our driving laws are discriminatory, requires people to go to the DMV, take a test, and get an…………ID

  41. Remember when you vote in the recall election that Walker, the Fitzgerald’s and the Republican organization knowing try and probably suceeded in preventing students, the elderly and minorities from voting by passing a bill requirering photo ID.

    I hope your grandmother has a birth certificate…..

    • So what you are saying is that the elderly, students, and minorities are too stupid to be able to get a WI ID card? I find your lack of faith disturbing.

      • I find your lack of understanding of what happens when you don’t have a driver license, like say a disable vet to be amazing,. did you know in Wisconsin many of the elderly where born at home in rural areas have no birth certificate? Did you know if you were born out-of state it may cost many dollars to get a birth certificate? I find your lack of knowledge to be discomposing

      • Jerry, I’m sure you can help these folks since you are so concerned. Thanks in advance.

      • Every county has a vet service officer to help the vets in their county. All it takes is a phone call. As far as no birth certificate…They might have been born at home, but eventually would have obtained one to work, etc…If you need to get your birth certificate from out of state, it may well cost some money. Oh well…It is a document worth spending the money for.

        It has nothing to do with a lack of knowledge…it has everything to do with people being responsible for their own affairs.

    • Sorry…..but this is just plain ‘stupid’ reasoning. I have to show an ID to withdraw money at the bank, I have to show an ID to use a Credit Card, I have to show an ID to purchase a Fishing License, I have to show an ID at the Dept of Motor Vehicles. What is wrong with having to show an ID to Vote in Wisconsin??? The ONLY reason there is resistance to the voter ID card is because the libs see it as a threat to them being able to get the illegals, and others who should not be voting in the first place, to vote for them!!! People who are not willing to show ID to vote should not be able to vote….PERIOD! It is all together reasonable for a voter to have to prove that he is eligible to vote, in order to actually vote….PERIOD!

      • Alas Rick your lack of understand of an effort to control goverment by a few very wealthy people is appalling. If you doubt that the effort is underway ask yourself who pays for the RRP’s speakers.

        If you find out, apparently it is a secert, let me know.

      • Jerry…You said you already know it is the Koch Brothers, so why continue asking. You could always make a donation.

      • Does it upset you that you have to provide a national ID, you SS# to get a state hunting or fishing license?

      • You need a State ID. It does bother me regarding the SS# for a variety of reasons. Social Security started out as a voluntary unconstitutional program and now look at it. A program at the State Level would at least be constitutional. Much money could be saved from eliminating all the federal bureaucracy and put into trust style accounts owned by the individual at the State Level.

  42. Watch the Assembly vote on mining regulations, which may come up in the next couple of weeks. We need jobs and a clean enviroment.

    There is far to much mining lobbyist money floating around Madison and to many politicians lining up with their hands out.

  43. RRP on recall..”One guy claimed to the news media that he signed recall petitions 80 times. That is one example.”

    I claim that I have more money than the Koch’s. I don’t, but I can claim anything I want…..

    Fitzgerald recall passes the 10,000 mark…

  44. Scott Fitzgerald recall well pass the mid point..Walker recall approaching completion. Any comments?

  45. Seen like all the recent comments were deleted and the old stuff remains. Why not clean off the page and we will start with a fresh slate.

    • I was deleting the old comments as you suggested…It was taking quite a while, so I took a break. I’ll work on some more soon.

    • The comments page has been cleaned up pretty well now. Hope it helps.

      • Help me to understand, you haven’t seen the petitions, no one but a very small group has seen them, yet you know that there are hundreds, thousands of fraudulent signatures. Are you psychic or do you believe what you read with out challenging the source? The source of the duplicate signatures statement is?

        Recall is a two step process, petition then the election, that is if you have a valid state ID. There are more than enough lawyers on both sides of the process to assure it is a fair process.

        By the way I don’t know who, “You guys,” are. I’m an independent, as are most of the RRP members?

      • One guy claimed to the news media that he signed recall petitions 80 times. That is one example.

  46. The venture capital committee has been appointed. Discussion will soon be underway. So far there has been over $150,000 of lobbyist money spent by firms from outside of Wisconsin to get a piece of the Wisconsin taxpayer’s pie. Follow this closely and let your senator know your watching…

  47. And Gerald is a perfect example of that statement lol

  48. MADISON — A state worker was fired Thursday, hours after sending his colleagues an email about the Department of Transportation’s policy to give out free photo identification cards only if voters ask for them.

    Chris Larsen was fired after he sent the email to all employees at the Department of Safety and Professional Services mail room. Larsen had worked there in the mail room.

    “It’s insane,” Larsen said.

    John Murray, executive assistant at the Department of Safety and Professional Services, said the firing is under review, adding that Larsen had violated work rules in the past, including the inappropriate use of work email.

    Larsen said he hadn’t been disciplined in the past.

    The law requires voters to show certain photo identification at the polls — including a driver’s license or passport — to cast a ballot starting next year. Republicans said it was needed to combat voter fraud, while Democratic opponents said it would unfairly restrict access to the polls.

    The free ID option was added as a way to address concerns that people without identification would be subject to an illegal poll tax by having to pay the $28 to obtain an ID.

    The fee is waived if certain requirements are met and the applicant checks the appropriate box on the application.

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